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Complex Questions about Braindumps(long)

Ok, I passed the 70-218 without using sites that advertise themselves as braindumps. However now that I am finished
I went to a site that examnotes advertises
with popup ads and looked at their questions.
On the Examnotes.biz(certkiller)site they had a PDF file with 103 questions. Of those
questions I saw 7 of them on my test. Would
they be considered a braindump? If so then why do you accept advertising form them?
There was another PDF file from ITEXAMGUIDES
that I used for my studies. On that one I found 3 questions that were on my actual test. Does it count as a braindump?

One other question. You have condemed
TESTKING as a braindump, but somebody from the CCNA forum told a story. A person he knew purchased testking for the CCNA test, used it has his main study guide and flunked
badly when no testking question appeared on his actual test. So if no questions appear
on the actual test why is it labeled a braindump.

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Re: Complex Questions about Braindumps(long)

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One other question. You have condemed
TESTKING as a braindump, but somebody from the CCNA forum told a story. A person he knew purchased testking for the CCNA test, used it has his main study guide and flunked badly when no testking question appeared on his actual test. So if no questions appear
on the actual test why is it labeled a braindump.



You base your question/observation on one story told by someone who knew someone. I can not speak for their CCNA offering, or this fellow. If I had to guess, he probably downloaded an out of date version with "older" questions that were no longer given on the exam. Just a theory.

I'll leave you with a testimonial from their website submitted by someone who used their product to pass the 70-218.

"I pass the test and I'm now an MCSA. Thanks, ALL of your questions were on my test. All I had to do was look at the answers and I knew the correct one."

Hmmmm...a great non-braindump product that has just supplied another paper/vapor MCSA to the IT work force pool. Oh joy.

Here's another from someone who used their 70-215 "guide"

"I passed the microsoft exam 70-215 with your material and i got 1000 i'm very glad because your exam material the same of the microsoft exam the i want to get the other exams from your site."

And one more for good measure.

"I am writing to let you know how much I appreciate your study guides. I have used study guides from Cheet-Sheets, TroyTech, and Transcender and yours are by far the best. I purchased 3 exams 70-028, 70-029, and 70-218. With these three exams I obtained by MCDBA and MCSA certifications. Moreover, your exams were always up to date. For example, in all 3 exams that I used your study guides I never had a question which was not covered by your study guides. That was never the case with the other vendors I had used before. Needless to say I will be utilizing your study guides from now on. Please Keep up the great work. Let me know when the CCNP Study Guides are available"

Their MCSE exam offerings are notorious for supplying actual exam questions. Hopefully these type of products will loose popularity as MS moves towards more simulation questions and hopefully someday actual lab exams.

As I said before in the 210 forum that I moderate, I can not, nor wish to control what/who the Webmaster chooses as sponsors to generate revenue for his website. However, the moderators can control the postings in their respective forums to material that they/we feel is in violation of the NDA. These guides provide actual exam questions and answers period. I tolerate the questionable sponsers because I enjoy helping people on this forum, and that is the most important thing to me. Because the exams are not cheap, Bdumps, and bdump type materials like testking are an unfortunate part of the certification game, but that doesn't mean I have to allow it in the 2 forums I moderate, and I won't.

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I consider mock exam of any type a braindump. Yes, even Transcender! If you really want to test yourself, go for the exam without doing any practise questions. Just read the books, do the lab exercise, have some real life experience, and then go for the exam. If you can pass exams that way, means you are really good.

Cheers!

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I'm with spid on this one, as people who frequent the General Discussion forum, where I moderate, will know.

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anthonie SAID "I consider mock exam of any type a braindump. Yes, even Transcender! If you really want to test yourself go for the exam without doing any practise questions.

Sorry I used Trans , I do not thaink is braindump, it is absolutely different from TEST King which is really a braindump.I believe every candidate has right and obligation to train himself.I defend trans , it explains every correct questions and gives u link to correct ur knoweldge not like some braindump they give u only the answers without explaining why , people who use these baindump will learn nothing latelly Microsoft create new version of server 76-215 , my trans help me a lot, and I took the new version a the first week , I used my trans that was in market from last October, and I passed because trans, teach me .

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Re: Re: Complex Questions about Braindumps(long)

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As I said before in the 210 forum that I moderate, I can not, nor wish to control what/who the Webmaster chooses as sponsors to generate revenue for his website. However, the moderators can control the postings in their respective forums to material that they/we feel is in violation of the NDA. These guides provide actual exam questions and answers period. I tolerate the questionable sponsers because I enjoy helping people on this forum, and that is the most important thing to me. Because the exams are not cheap, Bdumps, and bdump type materials like testking are an unfortunate part of the certification game, but that doesn't mean I have to allow it in the 2 forums I moderate, and I won't.


Once again, DITTO! Anyone that promotes bdumps on the 210 forum have 2 moderators do deal with!

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I'm not sure how anybody could say trancender is a b-dump when microsoft offically supports practice tests like it.

Personally I need practice tests to get me into that "test taking mindset".

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If you remember the NT4 days, you'll remember a totally different style of Transcenders than the "Microsoft approved" version it is now.

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Re: Complex Questions about Braindumps(long)

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Originally posted by rchristo
Ok, I passed the 70-218 without using sites that advertise themselves as braindumps. However now that I am finished
I went to a site that examnotes advertises
with popup ads and looked at their questions.
On the Examnotes.biz(certkiller)site they had a PDF file with 103 questions. Of those
questions I saw 7 of them on my test. Would
they be considered a braindump? If so then why do you accept advertising form them?



Probably the only reason this site is free to all of us is probably because of payment from advertisements from those you have mentioned.

It is entirely up to individuals whether they cheat or not - what I cannot stand is those people who advertise the fact especially after spending a lot of money on training/equipment/etc and learnt the hard way.

I must spend 90% of my time editing/deleting and locking such posts and I will continue to as long as I know there are honest people out there who, like me, are fed up with such posts.

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I use Measureup.com. It is approved by Microsoft. I had tried cert21 a while back. No one can tell me that cert21 is not a braindump. I saw it with my own eyes.

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